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02/24/12 at 14:10:23
 
http://mastcelldisorders.lefora.com/
I came looking in 2009 to find out how i could help my selth
looking at the old site and going through the new one
I do not see much help for the people with a diagnosis of
systemic mastocytosis or clusters of clonal mast cells by bone marrow
i am now stable and back at work full time
with a sit-down aircon job
but if i was new here i think i would have the same problems now as
I had on the old site in 2009
IF ANY ONE WITH SYSTEMIC MASTOCYTOSIS BY WHO CRYTIREA
Has addvice that might help others could you post it
with your diagnosis i do not have mastocytosis of the skin or food problems other then GI] WE need addvice from people with the
SAME DIAGNOSIS
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Reply #1 - 02/24/12 at 15:06:52
 
Peter,

I am very happy to hear that you are stable now! Yay! Smiley

I don't actually understand your question because many people posting on both forums are diagnosed with systemic masto. So, that qualifies as plenty of advice from people with systemic masto. Is there a sub category of masto types that you are specifically looking to hear from?
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Reply #2 - 02/24/12 at 15:24:59
 
Welcome Peter, so glad to hear you've improved!!

Yes there are heaps of people on here with a diagnosis of systemic masto.

There is a spectrum of us on here with other mast cell disease but we all share many similar clinical symptoms and take similar medications, so I find that I learn a lot from everyone!

Hope you can share your experiences with us and what helped you achieve stability! Cool
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Reply #3 - 02/24/12 at 20:33:47
 
HI deb I have been told that the docters are having truble
working out the differnce betwen mcas and sm
that thay are geting confused
that I should only look at people with the same diagnosis
As there is a very big differnce. so if people with the same diagnosis
put what has worked for them and what has not worked it might help
hi Anaphylaxis yes there is a large spectrum of other mast cell disease
i had mcas for 3 years but now it is gone but the sm is not good
what worked for me was 2 years off work the normal pils
with zometa iv i think my mcas was reacuring anaphylaxis
from a wasp sting that took a cupple of years to setell
but there are different course for different people
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Reply #4 - 02/25/12 at 07:48:42
 
Hi Peter,

  I have SM, too, confirmed by WHO criteria and a bone marrow biopsy.  I have the c-kit mutation and very elevated tryptase.  My symptoms are usually well-controlled by daily meds and lifestyle.  Much of the information on this site applies to all mast cell disorder patients, especially daily medicating, treatment of anaphylaxis, lifestyle changes that help symptoms, foods and medicines that are generally tolerated and which to avoid, how to approach surgery safely, etc.

  In my opinion, one important difference is how we're followed by doctors and what types of regular testing should be done.  SM patients (and some others) need to be checked at regular intervals to make sure nothing is becoming aggressive.  Tryptase, CBCs, and other tests give doctors information that will tell them if the SM is stable (indolent), smoldering (SSM), or aggressive (ASM).  With SM especially, patients need to be checked to rule out other blood disorders that can sometimes appear.  Other blood tests can give them important information, such as whether patients have low vitamin D or B12, since we seem to have malabsorption troubles sometimes.

  Testing for C-Kit or other mutations can provide information in case a patient needs chemotherapy treatment at some point.  Some treatments are more effective in patients without mutation(s) and don't work on patients who have specific ones, and vice-versa.

  Bone density tests show if there is osteoporosis from the SM.  Bone X-rays  show whether there are bone lesions that need to be watched.  If there are a lot or they are large or if there are breaks, then more aggressive treatment might be necessary.

  If the mast cells are not proliferating, then, in general, these problems don't occur.  There are exceptions, of course, especially in patients who don't quite meet the diagnostic criteria for SM, but who do have some minor criteria.  They may be heading towards SM, but just aren't far enough along to find it.

  Other problems in SM patients that might need more treatment would be finding decreasing numbers of other blood cells because the mast cells are taking up too much space in the marrow.  There also can be involvement in other organs, such as enlarging of the liver and spleen that can affect health.  These things need to be watched.

  I'm not a doctor, so know I've greatly simplified this subject and only scratched the surface.  SM is a complex disease, and it requires experts to follow it and treat it properly.  I believe SM patients can benefit from being seen by a hematologist who is familiar with it, as well as being followed regularly by allergists/immunologists who can keep medications optimized, order testing, and educate patients in feeling better.  Patients with GI symptoms might benefit from seeing a GI specialist who knows about the effects of mast cells on the GI system.

  If you feel you're not stable right now or that it's taking increasing medicines to keep yourself stable, you might want to talk this over with a mast cell expert.  It might give you peace of mind to know, if you don't already, whether your SM is stable.  If you felt better when you weren't working, is disability a possibility?  I can't remember where you live, but if you have an SM diagnosis in the U.S., you probably will qualify.

  There are several new medications in clinical trials right now (Midostaurin is one) that are hoped to help ASM patients with minimal side effects, if that should be relevant at some point.  Hope this addresses some of your thoughts.
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Reply #5 - 02/25/12 at 19:09:57
 
Thank you joan important information easy to read
i have found that most of my symptoms are pain related and phisical stress on the body makes it worse

i am also looking at the upregulated immun system responce
posible caurseing the exta pain
not looking fowered to winter
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Reply #6 - 02/26/12 at 13:51:32
 
I totally agree with Joan! You are a wealth of info and have helped me a great deal.

Peter, you probably heard that they came out with an article recently trying to unify the diagnostic criteria for mast cell disease/activation to include MCAS, SM, CM etc. The treatments for all of these are similar (though individualized and sometimes directed by C-kit etc) unless aggressive, but it's the follow-up/monitoring that changes based on your diagnosis.

I also agree with Joan that seeing a mast cell doc is the way to go!

I hope there are better days ahead for you!

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Reply #7 - 02/26/12 at 18:46:29
 
HI anaphylaxing yes i have seen the articles and in march i think
things will change with the criteria sum metting happerning
we have a very good mast cell doc in sydney who looks arfter us very well as for me i have not been better for 5 years
i hope others with SM post what helps them so all new people can see
if thay were to UNIFY all mast cell disorders well that wont happen
as all diseasers have mast cell problems
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Reply #8 - 02/26/12 at 20:29:56
 
Peter would you mind posting the name of the doctor in Sydney (I think I recall you saying previously that you are in Sydney or NSW?)  or at least the hospital unit that you have found helpful and knowledgeable? There is not much information out there for Australians so it would be helpful.

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Reply #9 - 02/27/12 at 20:03:01
 
hi Ruth joan is helping with that
i don:t know if he wants his name on web sites
i will PM any one who needs a good doc in OZ yust leve a note
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Reply #10 - 02/28/12 at 01:44:07
 
Thanks Peter I appreciate it. It's good to hear of a doctor in Aus who is handling this well.  My elder son lives in Sydney and I may be looking for a consult for him in the near future.

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Reply #11 - 03/06/12 at 05:26:30
 
Thank you Joan for the great information.  It answered some questions I have.
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Reply #12 - 03/08/12 at 12:53:27
 
http://www.danmedj.dk/portal/page/portal/danmedj.dk/dmj_forside/PAST_ISSUE/2012/...
Systemic mastocytosis revue
Degranulation of mast cells is not to be regarded as an ON-OFF mechanism

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Reply #13 - 04/03/12 at 20:25:44
 
I have been on Zometa for osteoprosis every 3 mounths for 2 years
now the osteo has got a lot better  ?Do we cut back to every 6 or 12 mounths
i allso went off cromoglycate for 8 weeks to find out what would happen i had sum flushing for about a week but then it stoped
the pain got worse but not to bad
arfter 3 days the inflamed bowl came back BAD
arfter going back on it the IBD was gone arfter 3 days
the pains are back to nomal
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