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Reply #15 - 02/27/12 at 13:45:55
 
Very good information Joan. I will most definitely share Dr Afrins reasonings behind the antihistamines.
RAST testing!! I had that done about 4 years ago by a pulmonary specialist and that showed an allergy to dust mites. I couldn't remember the name associated with that test:)

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Reply #16 - 03/01/12 at 05:57:43
 
ANOTHER long story I will try to shorten. So the allergist who requested I go off my meds ended up being an already canceled appt which I had confused with the one I DID have coming up. So, the appt that I was supposed to have was today but they called me first thing this morning to tell me that I was scheduled with the WRONG doctor!!! Can you believe this? So they offered to set up the correct appt with the doctor I do need to see who is (can you guess?) an allergist! Oh geez! Yesterday I saw the rheumatologist because, as Dr Afrin suggested, with my symptoms and issues it would be a good idea to rule out other auto immune disorders that may go hand in hand with a mast cell disorder. Well the Rheumatologist agreed to run some blood work but felt I needed to see an allergist/immunologist. They made the appointment for me. I got THAT call too this morning and they want me off my meds for testing!
Thankfully I obtained Dr. Castels email and JUST NOW sent her an email requesting a confirmation and explanation for me to share with the allergist why it is NOT a good idea to go off antihistamines.
I got SO frustrated this morning that I was building up a good cry. However, I pulled my big girl britches up and kept repeating to myself "It's my health and I am in control." It helped me in that I didn't cry. Not sure I'm 100% convinced  Undecided I'm in control but I'm trying to learn more so I can make better decisions.
Thanks to everyone here for all the advice and help!
Wish me luck!
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Reply #17 - 03/01/12 at 09:43:45
 
Joan, I am a patient of Dr. Afrin as well.  He also recommended that I try Claritin and Pepcid first.  If I remember correctly it was because he said (of the drugs in those classes) Claritin and Pepcid have the least number of drug interactions/reactions.  I didn't have much success with them so we switched to Allegra and Zantac which have been better for me and he said that was totally fine.  I think he starts with the Claritin and Pepcid and then moves on to try others if they don't help.  As we all know, what works for one person, doesn't always work for another.    

Kim, I hope you start feeling better and get all of these appointments straightened out!
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Reply #18 - 03/01/12 at 15:30:35
 
  Thanks for posting that.  I'd wondered why he starts with Claritin, and I can see what he's thinking.  Some doctors are minimalists about meds, while some prefer to start with a stronger dose and then back off when possible, in order to get things quickly under control.  

   This is a good thing for patients to know.  Be sure to let your doctor know if you don't have an acceptable response to the doses or meds you're taking!  There's a lot of leeway in dosing antihistamines, so ask for what you need!
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Reply #19 - 03/07/12 at 15:53:09
 
Although this is no longer an issue for me, I had concerns about being asked to go off my antihistamines for allergy testing (which I'm not having done now). So I emailed Dr. Castels inquiring about her thoughts about going off antihistamines for this. Her response was " There is no contraindication to do skin testing on patients with Mastocytosis or MCAS. Being 5 days off anti-histamines is OK.." So apparently, if she had at one time, she no longers seems to think it's a no-no.
I expect this is going to start much talk about pro's and/or con's of going off anti-histamines. I just wanted to share what her response was. IN MY PERSONAL OPINION I would think that since she says it's ok that it really means that we can make that decision for ourselves as some have pretty serious symptoms where others may not.
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Reply #20 - 03/17/12 at 12:02:02
 
Hi ladies,

I wanted to find the answer Dr. Afrin gave to me about the reason he selects the Pepcid and Claritan over the other meds.  This is the way his email was worded, "I usually recommend famotidine and loratadine because pharmacologists have figured out it has fewer risks for unwanted interactions with other drugs".

I am not sure if he suggests this for all of his patients (or just patients like myself who happen to be on 11 other medications besides meds for mast cell).  

Any one else have any other thoughts about this?

I agree with hb36, if the Claritan and Pepcid don't work, he is very open to trying ANY other mast cell meds that could help.   

It is interesting what you said Joan....about Pepcid not being as "strong" as other H2 blockers.  ???Maybe that's why I am not getting better...I keep thinking it's because of not having an H1 blocker.  


Thanks girls....good discussion.  Welcome back Kim.  We missed you!

Hugs, Lynda
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Reply #21 - 03/17/12 at 12:04:33
 
Kim,

I can't remember...have you tried cromolyn yet?  I know we are all different, but that has helped me a lot!

Lynda
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Reply #22 - 03/17/12 at 12:31:25
 
Hi Lynda,

Not having an H1 blocker could be one reason.  Are there any you haven't tried yet?  

Normal strength famotidine (10-20 mg.) might not be enough for some people.  I think most MC people would say that Zantac works better.  

I've personally gone back to 20 mg. famotidine, twice/day, to see if the Zantac was causing some other problems, and I feel better now doing that, although there were a few days of adjustment.  My goal is to heal my GI enough so I can just take H1s.  Is that possible?  Don't know yet!  I do know that I've gone through periods when it was better and some when it was worse, so there must be a way to keep it in the "better" category.  I'm re-evaluating my diet, too.  Have been thinking about doing some sensitivity testing, but insurance won't pay and it's expensive.

I wonder if what Dr. Castells meant was that skin testing alone won't cause masto reactions.  Still, I know if I go off H1s and H2s for more than a day, I'll start the downward spiral.  I can't imagine she would think it would be okay to put oneself at risk by going off meds.
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Reply #23 - 06/27/12 at 07:48:03
 
SO SO sorry for the late reply. Life got busy and I failed to see the last few comments.
Lynda, thanks for the welcome back. No I have not yet tried cromolyn. Long story however the new doctor I am going to see at Vanderbilt had mentioned either gastrcom or cromolyn. I see him next week so we will see what he wants to do.
As for Afrins choice of h1, h2 meds, he also started me on the same ones and the only other medication I was on at the time was Toprol XL for tachycardia. My thought is that he understands how mast cells can affect so many different areas of our bodies that even if one at the time is not on a buffet of medicines, there 'may' come a point where other meds may have to be added in order to control symptoms.

Hate to cut it short but I need to go.
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