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Spleen and liver issues
05/26/11 at 15:31:24
 
I've had a swollen spleen and liver for about 2 months.  I remembered the feeling of the swollen spleen from having Mono about a million years ago as a teenager (how can I remember that far back and yet not remember where I've parked my car at Costco 20 minutes earlier??).  I was recently diagnosed with walking pneumonia and have finished my antibiotic, but the cough and fatigue just won't go away.  I've not read too much about anyone with spleen problems here, but I wonder if this could be Masto related or maybe related to the walking pneumonia.  Anyone have any ideas, or can someone point me in the right direction?
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Candace
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Reply #1 - 05/26/11 at 16:11:04
 
Hi Candace,

Infections can cause your spleen to swell (as you remember!), but as far as I know they don't cause your liver to swell.  Masto can do both.  When is the last time you had your baseline tryptase checked?  Do you have a regular doctor that you can visit?  If not, this would be a good time to go see a real mast cell specialist.   Can you remind us where you live?  

I'm sorry that you've been feeling so rotten!  Masto + infection is a very uncomfortable combination.

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Reply #2 - 05/27/11 at 13:24:40
 
Hi Heather,
Thank you for the reply and info.  I was diagnosed (formally) by a dermatologist this last Dec. with CM.  He did not check Tryptase - He was/is very new to Mast cell disease. He told me to take Zyrtec and come back in a year - I will not be going back. I had a bad reaction to Zyrtec, so have been taking Benadryl when I'm having problems, along with Ranitidine.  I have a regular GP who doesn't know anything about Masto either (and he ADMITS it!).  I have another appointment with him June 1st. for the coughing and maybe an abdominal X ray.  I have an appointment with a dermatologist that Melissa recommended (we're both in Wash. state) and an appointment with Dr. Kennedy in late June - he is an Allergist/Immunologist who attended the Pacific Northwest Mast Cell Meeting.  So, it looks like I'll be in good hands, eventually.  I guess I'm just worn out from feeling awful, being tired and swollen for so long - and not knowing why I am this way.  Plus, I might be a little bit wimpy.
Thank you for your help, I'm relieved to know Masto can cause this swelling.  And I'm very thankful for your willingness to answer questions!
Now to figure out how to find the car in the parking lot without sounding the alarm!

Candace
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Reply #3 - 05/27/11 at 14:47:52
 
caormiston wrote on 05/27/11 at 13:24:40:
Now to figure out how to find the car in the parking lot without sounding the alarm!

Isn't that what that little key chain remote thingy is for? Grin  I forget all the time where I parked!  It's a good thing I live in a small town.

It does sound like you'll be in better hands soon!  In the meantime, since you've already been diagnosed with cutaneous mastocytosis, it's pretty safe to experiment with antihistamines on your own.  Have you tried another H1 besides Zyrtec?  Allegra is now OTC.  You could also try Claritin, Alavert, or Chlor-trimeton.  I take a combination of H1s... 20mg of Claritin in the morning and 20mg of Zyrtec at night.  I also take 300mg of Zantac twice a day.  I didn't really start feeling better though until I added Gastrocrom and Singulair.  My GP is the one wrote the Rx for Gastrocrom based on Dr. Castells' advice.  He's 81 years old and doesn't know anything about mast cell disorders either, but you have to love a doctor who's willing to BELIEVE you and LEARN Smiley

Hang in there!
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Reply #4 - 05/28/11 at 09:04:45
 
Heather,

Thank you for the H1 ideas - will try those out.  I'm ready to be normal - or as close as I can get to it!  
Have a good extended weekend!

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Reply #5 - 05/28/11 at 09:37:26
 
Hi Candace!

I'm sorry you're going through such grief.  It's hard when you've not got doctors who know the disease, but that doesn't mean they can't help!

Candace, take advantage of your GP meeting and ask him to run a few routine masto tests on you.  Have him check for the liver and spleen enzymes and tests to make sure how they are functioning.  Also, have him test your tryptase as well.  It's important that the tryptase be run at least once a year when you've got proven SM.  this keeps an eye on the progression of the disease.   You should also have your CBCs being run with almost every doctor visit, for this is the window as to your overall health is concerned.  If you haven't had a bone marrow biopsy in years, then this is also good to have run perhaps every 5 or so years for it will pick up any other issues which the masto may be doing in your marrow.  

So, if your spleen and liver are giving you issues, and since masto is indeed known to cause problems with us there, you must have this taken seriously and investigated properly with masto in view.  

If you are needing a good hematologist, Candace, you'll have to travel to see him.  Dr. Jason Gotlieb is at Stanford in California but he's the best you have on the west coast.  Joan sees this doctor and he certainly does know his stuff when SM is on board.  So, if you show that you are having some important changes and that the masto is the cause behind the enlargement of your liver and spleen, then you may need to go and see Dr. Gotlib.  We are here to help you if and when that may be necessary!

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Reply #6 - 05/28/11 at 15:00:51
 
Hi Lisa,
Thank you for your wise words.  I will ask for the tests you mentioned, and I think my GP will go along with the idea.  I have been diagnosed with CM, but not SM - I think with all I have going on ( stomach issues, the breathing problem when I exert myself etc.) I might have progressed on to SM.  I'm over 60 yrs old and have had these symptoms a long time - and I know my dear old body and all it's little quirks pretty well by now.  I've never had a bone marrow biopsy, just the "spot" biopsy, so that may be next.  I'm also really ready to get rid of this horrible cough and weakness.  Ugh!
Thanks so much for all you people do for all of us - I really appreciate your help.

Candace
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Re: Spleen and liver issues
Reply #7 - 05/28/11 at 16:17:13
 
Hi Candace,

You should INSIST with your doctor to take a good look at this cough!!  CM, even though it remains only in the skin for a long time can indeed progress into systemic masto and it is known to attack other organs other than just the skin or bone marrow.  Even though your GP may be clueless, it's no excuse to be neglegent of your issues.  He should ask for a CT of your lungs and abdomen for although it is very rare, mastocytosis has been seen to affect the lungs, even though it's highly unusual that this would be your problem.  Yet, it is well known to cause problems in the spleen and liver and if you are having issues there as well as the coughing, then your doctor needs to err on the side of caution and ask for the full CT.  And since he's going to be looking, then have him order a bone scan as well and take a look into your bones for this is the major place it goes to first.  

So, don't be shy with your GP.  His not knowing the disease doesn't get him off the hook.  Besides, it would be a good idea to have these exams done already so that you can take it to the other two doctors and allow them to judge the exam - it would save time and tons of frustration for you and maybe even a few trips back and forth with the new guys!!

Let us know how your consultation goes, Candace, okay?!

hugs!

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Re: Spleen and liver issues
Reply #8 - 06/12/11 at 02:47:49
 
HI Candace .

Your  liver / spleen pain  and  fatigue may be  candida  related..  Taking antibiotics always  makes this  worse.

There are many  symptoms  related to candida.  Intestinal  gas, gut  problems,  nausea, brain fog, fatigue etc.

I had 35 years of  fatigue  not knowing it was candida  related  because  even  doing  candida  cleanses  I still had chronic fatigue.  Since  taking  biotin and a  form of  b6 called  p5p   I no longer have any fatigue.!!!

I also have had  liver  pain  with no medical reason behind it.

It  seems that  the fatigue  was  candida  related  as  biotin for sure is  a  good anticandida  treatment . P5p  also seems to be helpful  for candida problems.  

I am taking high doses. Biotin  the usual dose in a  mulit  b vitamin is 300mcg .. I am taking  as much  as 60 mg  daily..   P5P  I am taking as much  as 150mg daily  . P5p is  five times  stronger than  regular  b6.

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Re: Spleen and liver issues
Reply #9 - 06/14/11 at 10:04:00
 
Thanks Nanci,

This is something I will have my new allergist (when I see him) look into.  I appreciate any and all ideas!

Candace
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