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Protein Electrophoresis & Masto
03/12/11 at 13:13:43
 
Heather, I've a question for you!

What is Protein Electrophoresis and what relation does it have with mastocytosis?  Mine are off and I'm trying to understand what this means in the light of masto.   Do you know?

Thanks!

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Reply #1 - 03/12/11 at 14:52:44
 
Hi Lisa,

I've had a protein electrophoresis... my primary doctor ordered it after I had several abnormal urine dips.  Mine was completely normal (thank goodness).  Here's a good explanation about the significance of abnormal results:

http://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/electrophoresis/test.html

You'll notice that some causes of abnormal results are pretty benign... dehydration, high cholesterol, recent immunization, etc... BUT, it can also indicate kidney disease, liver disease, multiple myeloma, etc...  I wouldn't be surprised if mastocytosis can throw off an electrophoresis (just it like it can throw off a CBC)... I just haven't read any literature specifically about this topic.

Do you mind sharing your results?

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Reply #2 - 03/13/11 at 00:13:14
 
Sure Heather,

Ive been showing consistantly for some time now alterations as to the Albulmin and Globulin and Protein indicators

The Albulmin is consistantly high, the Globulin consistantly low and the protein indicator consistantly high as well.   When my exams were being divided into the Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 they were consistantly low as well.  

What it all means, especially in light of masto, is what I'm now beginning to wonder - especially with that really weird negative c-kit finding.  It's beginning to concern me.  But I guess I shouldn't since I don't see any of my doctors jumping.  This is what makes me wonder, but not freak because even though we have to measure our diseases in light of mastocytosis, anything that really screams aggressive is going to talk to the simplest of doctors!!!!   So the fact that I don't see any doctors jumping summersaults around me, leaves me at peace.   It's turned into more of a curiosity instead.

I've shown it to Dr. Castells once and she did a little bit of jumping in that she asked for some kidney exams.  I'm going to show it to her again once I get the serotonin levels back for I decided to ask my doctor to run this exam, the serotonin as well as the ANA since these 3 exams are consistantly altered.  The ANA returned with a 1:160 titter this time - it came down from the 1:320 it was last year.  The serotonin will be off too.  It's consistantly dropped and I"m wondering if it will continue to be lower as well.  

Oh the things we do to take care of ourselves!!!

Thanks for the answers, Heather!  

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Reply #3 - 03/13/11 at 01:27:32
 
Hi Lisa ,

I have had electropharesis . In particular to look for myloma , which was suspected at one point due to my high IGE ( it can cause over production of immunoglobulins ) back pain , other bone pain . It was negative .

But at the time I was on large doses of steriods , which are used to control it .

I have asked about it in my list of questions to the local immuno . When i see the top guy I will ask again Smiley especially in light of my bleeding .

I am commencing vestril tomorrow . if that helps it suggests histamine is the correct route . But elimination of causes of high immunoglobulins - which would lead to mast cell degraulation and histamine release is important .

The doctors have given me a take a tryptase letter , for when I go to ED , which has compliment and IGG on as well , so they are looking Wink Not dismissing me Wink

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Reply #4 - 03/13/11 at 02:18:50
 
Lisa wrote on 03/13/11 at 00:13:14:
The Albulmin is consistantly high, the Globulin consistantly low and the protein indicator consistantly high as well.   When my exams were being divided into the Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 they were consistantly low as well. ...  It's beginning to concern me.  But I guess I shouldn't since I don't see any of my doctors jumping.

Right... none of these point toward your bone marrow as the source of the problem.  How have your liver enzymes been?  

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The ANA returned with a 1:160 titter this time - it came down from the 1:320 it was last year.

Mine bounces all over the place.  In January 2010 mine was 1:320.  I had it tested again in April 2010... 1:40!  What I've learned is that a positive ANA is never really a "false positive."  It does indicate that your immune system is attacking your own body.  The question is, "What symptoms do you have to match that ANA?"  It's not worth treating an autoimmune disorder if the symptoms are not bothering you!  It just means that you, as a patient, need to be aware of the possibility of developing a "clinically-significant" autoimmune disorder in the future... something that does require treatment.  Once you've had a positive ANA the risk is always there.

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The serotonin will be off too.  It's consistantly dropped and I"m wondering if it will continue to be lower as well.  

Maybe, but what does that mean for your well-being (and possibly treatment) as a patient?

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Re: Protein Electrophoresis & Masto
Reply #5 - 03/13/11 at 04:35:32
 
Thanks for that reassurance Heather!!   I DO appreciate it!

What are the liver enzyme exams?   I don't know which they are.

Thanks!
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Reply #6 - 03/13/11 at 04:57:49
 
The liver enzymes are alanine transaminase (ALT), aspartate transaminase (AST), and alkaline phosphatase (ALP).  Those are the primary tests for assessing liver function, which is why they're part of the standard CMP.  If those are good and you're feeling fine, then I wouldn't worry about your liver!

One last thing... have you ever been vaccinated against Hepatitis A/B or been tested for those infections?  

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Re: Protein Electrophoresis & Masto
Reply #7 - 03/13/11 at 13:17:21
 
Those liver enzymes are all normal, but perhaps it's time to check them again - it's been a while.


As to the serotonin - according to Dr. Metcalfe's research, there may indeed be a benefit in trying to increase them back to normal levels for according to his discussion at the end of the article, those patients who had lower, below normal levels were more reactive than those who had levels closer to normal.  This may explain why I've got such constant activity.  He suggested that by the raising of these levels the patients may have some relief.  

The trick is to find a doctor who knows about this and to address these low levels and a means of raising them once again!!   Undecided  Rather frustrating!!!

Thanks Heather!   YOU'RE GREAT!!!
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Reply #8 - 03/14/11 at 03:07:03
 
Right!  Some things in the body are easy to raise by supplementing (like iron or B-12)... others can be raised through indirect means (vitamin C, for example, is necessary for collagen production), but not all levels can be altered so easily.  Our bodies have LOTS of checks, balances, and redundancies to keep things on an even keel.

If I were in your shoes, I would start studying how the body produces serotonin.  My understanding of SSRIs, for example, is that they don't change how much serotonin is in your body... they just change how the receptors in your brain make use of it.  I don't know for sure.  It's not my area of specialty! Cool  That's the kind of knowledge you'll need to converse with a specialist and assess whether s/he knows what s/he is talking about.

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Re: Protein Electrophoresis & Masto
Reply #9 - 03/14/11 at 10:48:58
 
Hi lisa ,

Trytophan ( essensial amino acid )  was taken in the 80's , for its componant part of serotonin production , as a sleep aid .

It can cross the blood brain barrier were as serotonin can not .
It is naturally produced in the entrocromaffin cells in the gut .

Direct supplemtation is not advised :- because a large tryptophan-related outbreak of eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (EMS) in 1989  caused 1,500 cases of permanent disability and at least thirty-seven deaths. from  anaphylaxis .

It was not clear wether it was due to a contamination . Though the studies concluding this were questioned for throughness and transparancy .

or its role in histamine metabolism . As large doses of tryophan produce metabolites which interferes with histamine degeneration , which could logically led to normal subjects having anaphylaxis .

At the time the FDA banned it but it is now available again . They will non confirm wether it is dangerous or not . As a result a safe supplemention level has not been established .

Anything that reduces histamine degeneration should logically be avoided in any case in masto / mcas .

I am interested in serotonin metabolism and action . A brief read shows its complex . so a challenge for me xxxxxxxxxxxxxx So I am going to read up Smiley Ill let you know what I find xxxxx

Josie



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