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Embarassing Question
01/09/13 at 14:57:10
 
Do any of you get terrible gas regularly?  I have not had a lot of gastrointestinal problems so far, but lately I have been getting really bad gas when I eat something spicy,drink alcohol or any other trigger. Is this a Masto symptom? My symptoms have been progressing over the last few years and I was wondering if this is something I'm going to have now all the time?  I really don't like this. It's going to be a real problem if I can't go out of the house because I might have to pass gas.  Shocked
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Reply #1 - 01/09/13 at 18:59:15
 
It would seem if you know what triggers it, and stop eating/drinking those things, and it should go away, but that's not always the case.  Sometimes any food can start uncomfortable symptoms.  Stress can make it worse, too.  

Yes, it can be a masto symptom, and it might come and go.  Do you take H1 and H2 antihistamines?  Those can help, too.  I find liquid Benadryl can help a gassy stomach.  Gastrocrom helps to stabilize the mast cells in the stomach and lower GI, and that might reduce symptoms.

Simethicone caplets are available over-the-counter and can help with bloating issues.  Directions and dosages are on the packages.  There's extra strength, too, if needed.
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Reply #2 - 01/10/13 at 00:58:54
 
I remember that years ago before I was diagnosed and on meds, that just anything would give me a bloated stomach, gas, and terrible GI pain. After I started my basic H1 and H2 meds (and changed my diet to eliminate trigger foods), those problems vanished completely and have never returned!
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Reply #3 - 01/10/13 at 06:07:54
 
Even before my symptoms got bad and everything became a trigger, I had an excessive amount of gas.  Nowadays, if I have any GI symptoms they generally come along with lots of gas, bloating/swelling, pain, burning, you name it.   My husband can hear it when he's in the same room and feel it lurching around my gut when he hugs me! I also find the gas is far more uncomfortable, presumably because my belly is so swollen when this happens that it constricts the gas from moving easily through the system.  The key is to avoid your triggers as much as possible and get on good treatment.  I'm not there yet myself, even with a highly restricted diet and loads of antihistamines, but I'm hoping I'll find something to help eventually.  

I will say, anti-gas meds (simethicone) have NEVER helped me at all with this, nor has Beano or Lactaid, so don't feel bad if they don't help you.  (My husband is always pushing the Gas-x and just doesn't understand that it doesn't help me in the least.)
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Reply #4 - 01/10/13 at 07:23:35
 
I have bloating and gas if I eat gluten... or drink really large quantities of milk (more than 12 ounces).  Food is not the only problem, though.  The same thing happens when I travel long distances, I assume due to the vibration.  Otherwise, it's nice not to have this problem on a daily basis!  I've been gluten-free for about four years and I was surprised at what a difference it made.

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Reply #5 - 01/10/13 at 18:52:00
 
Thanks. It's just a new symptom and so it surprised me, but seems to be happening a lot lately. I'm on H-1 and H-2 but I am obviously eating trigger foods. I am new to the meds and keep experimenting with trying things to see how far I can go now that I am on meds. I keep trying to have a glass of wine etc.   I guess I now am realizing that the meds make you better but you still have to watch triggers. But I wonder why the Gas now when I have a glass of wine?  Pre Meds I would only itch and feel tired after a glass of wine. It's a bit frightening how this disease seems to be progressing. Maybe I should try the Gastrocrom.  I hadn't been experiencing much Gastro problems so I didn't think I needed it.
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Reply #6 - 01/11/13 at 01:51:33
 
The meds will not take the place of the need to eliminate the food trigger. Any alcoholic drink is one of the biggest triggers that you can have. So, you need to consider if the risks are worth that glass of wine. My husband is a wine connoisseur and we have a wine cellar, but I haven't had a sip of any alcoholic drink for over 10 years. Then again, I go into anaphylaxis and I feel the effects instantly from alcohol (which is how I figured out something wasn't right before I got diagnosed).
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Reply #7 - 01/11/13 at 07:18:43
 
Deborah: I know you're right. I just have given up so many things already. And I really do miss being able to have wine with dinner or a cocktail at a party. Luckily I have not gone into full blown life threatening anaphylaxis yet, so I have the "luxury" of being able to experiment when I probably shouldn't.
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Reply #8 - 01/13/13 at 08:44:01
 
I took a sip of wine that I was using to baste a piece of meat just out of curiosity.  I donīt drink and have never been a drinker but I took a sip about 4 years ago out of curiosity since my body had changed so much and the literature says that alchohol is a trigger.   That SIP sent me RACING for my antihistamines so quick was the reaction!!!   If i were to have a glass of any kind of alcohol Iīd be in the ER for certain!!!!!



As to the gas a bloating, masto creates MAJOR ISSUES with entire GI tract because MCs are very present there.    However, you canīt just assume that it the problem because MCAS has been tied to lipid/cholesterol imbalances which in turn affect the liver itself.   Iīve been having a nagging pain in my upper right abdomen and finally my gastro decided to take a peek.   We found my liver is now fatty!!!  My diet has not changed, but it~s the masto affecting my liver.  

So, donīt think that the gas and bloating is for no reason, if itīs really getting to be an issue and diet and meds donīt improve it, then your doctor needs to take a further look.


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Reply #9 - 01/14/13 at 13:30:56
 
You're right. I didn't know that. Is there a way to reverse a fatty liver once you get it?  My mother has fatty liver and doesn't drink. I am starting to wonder if she has Masto. She has the following symptoms.

1) Lung fibrosis (on Oxygen at night)
2) Osteoporosis
3) IBS (Diarrhea, Constipation, Belching)
4) Fatty liver
5) Mild itching
6) Psoriasis
7) High red blood cells
8) Had white stool a few times
9) Passed out a few times and was ambulanced to hospital where they said her blood pressure and blood sugar were low.

The doctors don't really explain any of it other to say she has idiopathic lung fibrosis and IBS.  One doctor actually put her on really strong tranquilizers for her non-extistent "anxiety" that was supposed to be causing her IBS. Of course all it did was make her fall down a few times. Since then I have been taking her to all her doctor appointments. I can't believe he would even give a woman in a walker such a drug.
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Reply #10 - 01/14/13 at 14:22:02
 
When I saw Dr. Greenberger in 2011 he noticed that my liver was a bit enlarged.  A few months later I was diagnosed with a fatty liver (via ultrasound)... and I definitely do not drink!  It's called "Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/nonalcoholic-fatty-liver-disease/DS00577

Something to watch, but for most people it doesn't cause problems.  Losing weight might reverse it.

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Reply #11 - 01/15/13 at 05:43:48
 
Hi Lisa Smiley

Just recently I also found out I have an enlarged liver and have been experiencing the same kind of pain as you. My specialist is thinking this is being caused by the corticosteroid Florinef I am taking for POTS.....I have also gained major weight with little appetite....since starting my taper though the pain seems to be getting worse....I am wondering if it may not be related but more because of mast cell issues? my stomach is my enemy no matter what I eat or drink  Angry  did your gastro doc mention anything that you could do to help with the pain etc?

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Reply #12 - 07/25/13 at 10:50:12
 
Here is another thought:  do you have stomach acid?  In addition to the MCAD, I also have autoimmune atrophic gastritis, pernicious anemia, and gastroparesis.  I thought for sure I had masto in my GI tract due to the severe Gi symptoms,  but the biopsies say "no".  It turns out I have stomach acid at 7.3 or actually more of a base.  I cannot digest food, and they took me off of the H2blocker because my gastrin levels were so high.  As  a result, the flushing episodes got worse. The GI diagnosis came almost a year before the MCAD but my GI Dr. now knows I NEED the h2 blockers.  The gas and abdominal pain are severe at times and the bloating makes me grow several sizes in an hours time!
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Reply #13 - 07/25/13 at 16:42:43
 
Gosh, I didn't even see Bren's post  - this thread got buried somewhere!!!   Sad


Peg, if your doctor didn't ask to do the right immunohistochemical staining for mastocytosis then your biopsies were not dealt with properly.   You can't see mast cells without the proper staining - PERIOD!   Unless the doctors know what to look for and ask for this then the pathologist won't know cause he can't see the elevated number of mast cell or whether those that are there are normal or malformed, etc.    So this right there is a MAJOR QUESTION regarding your biopsies.  Please confirm with your doctor that this was indeed done properly.  

With MCAS, the vast majority of us have incompletely fulfilled the criteria for SM.  That doesn't mean we don't have SM it could merely mean that we are just too early in the progression of our illness to fulfill the very tight criteria for that diagnosis.  In this case it means that the search for masto must be very thorough and every single tissue removed be run through the proper testing for masto and then the overall picture evaluated.   The diagnosis of Idiopathic Anaphylaxis, which is still competing with MCAS does not produce any kind of pathological changes in the patient, according to Dr. Metcalfe of the NIH.   Supposedly the diagnosis of non-clonal MCAS also does not, but it's still way too early to say that for certain.   However, MMAS and a pre-SM form of MCAS would indeed create this and this reinforces that this may be a pre-SM form of masto.  

So, if you already have this much activity going on in your case I would recommend that your doctor speak with Dr. Greenberger in Boston and have him confer with Dr. Greenberger about your case and what it all may indicate and how to treat it properly.

I hope this helps.


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