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Reply #15 - 12/25/12 at 20:49:32
 
Hello, Marcia. I had to google  paleo / wahls diet, I had never heard of it! It makes sense that returning to what our bodies are 'designed to eat' would make us [any one not just people will Mastocytosis] healthier.

I am fortunate in that living in a rural area I can access locally grown food.  I can eat all root vegetables - which are also great fillers when you are restricted. Locally caught seafood is also good for me. In terms of meat I don't eat pork or lamb but can tolerate beef [local Aberdeen Angus] and free range, local, chicken.  Have you tried game meat? Pheasant, venison, wild duck and so on, I have no reaction at all to these. I don't tolerate beans or pulses but can still enjoy soups by using root vegetables such as leek and potato or carrot and corriander. I can't eat the flesh of fruit but can drink fruit juice so berries [which grow everywhere here] can be taken that way. I think preservatives and 'bulkers' such as corn syrup and palm oil are to blame for a lot of ill health in the West - difficult to avoid though as they are in everything that doesn't grow in the ground, fly in the air or roam the hills. Smiley

I was on a short course of steriods last year for a swelling on the left side of my face which came up as a side affect of a bite which became infected. They worked a treat and also gave me a lot of energy - I think long term they can have a negative impact but that might depend on the dose.  We are all different, as you know, what works for you might not work for me - so this condition goes Sad

I am interested in trying Interferon because it has been proven to reduce the mast cell burden. I accept that the treatment itself can be debilitating to say the least but I feel the gains, in terms of being able to do the things I want to do in my life, far outweigh the pains. Smiley

For cleaning stuffs I use a brand called Ecover - not sure if it's sold outside the UK - all natural ingredients and does as good a job as the chemical based ones.

Anyway, here's to a happy and healthy new year. I won't be starting the Interferon for a couple of months but I'll keep you updated.


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Reply #16 - 12/26/12 at 02:23:29
 
I feel as if over the years here on the forum we have had reports of chemo being used for Masto and making the patient severely and permanently worse. Can anyone chime in on this? I could be wrong, which is why I am asking....it would be good here to have both the negative and positive stories of interferon experience. Also, is interferon chemo?
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Reply #17 - 12/26/12 at 04:47:06
 
yes yes Ms. Deb...my understanding is this med is for a treatment such as chemo
and I also have read thru my many many years that it has not helped..it is something that should be very thought out before starting..should be interesting to see replies on this one
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Reply #18 - 12/26/12 at 20:18:51
 
There is no chemo that can be considered a cure for systemic mastocytosis.  Although a small percentage of people get some measure of relief from chemotherapy drugs, those drugs can have potentially life-threatening side effects and long term after effects.  While some chemo drugs, like interferon, reduce the mast cell burden in some patients, not everyone responds to it, and the results have been generally temporary.  I've heard of only one case in which a long term remission was achieved.  Taking these drugs can result in higher risk for other cancers later, so they are usually given only for aggressive cases.  

I believe it was Dr. Castells who prescribed hydroxyurea for a patient on this forum in the last year, but I believe that had to be discontinued due to side effects.

Midostaurin is still in clinical trials for aggressive SM, but the results have been very good thus far.  It may be available through a clinical trial in France, Italy, or Spain, but I don't know for sure.  I also don't know if they're finding long term side effects.  It's a drug that works while being taken and must be taken for life.

High dose chemo or radiation in conjunction with marrow transplants are not effective for SM.
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Reply #19 - 12/26/12 at 20:50:36
 
Thanks Joan and Redbird.

Yes I know there is no 'cure' for SM. Smiley Interesting comment re marrow transplants - has this been attempted, are there any papers on it?

Essentially, I am looking for 'respite' i.e. a reduction in the mast cell burden as my current levels are unmanagable at this point in time. Interferon is used widely in the UK for Hep C and so on and has good results with 'minimal' side effects for many. I have thought this through, Redbird and realise that it may or may not deliver the results I am looking for.  I have complete trust in my consultant, he is well respected in his field and teaches across the country.
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Reply #20 - 12/27/12 at 19:47:16
 
My hematologist is who first told me about the BM transplants not working on masto patients.  I've heard it from others, too, but haven't looked for articles online.  I would imagine there are some.

I came out of an almost 3- year flare.  It was rough.  Changes in diet made a big difference.  Then, increased amounts of and additional meds helped a lot, as well as probiotics, l-glutamine, turmeric, and other supplements.  Lowering stress was the single most important change.  I hope you find relief from whatever treatment you decide to try.
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Reply #21 - 12/28/12 at 02:15:42
 
Cutty:
First I have heard of almost none if any good results from cancer drugs such as Gleevec. There is a new drug on the horizon in phase 3 test called Mastinib. It being tested all over the world. My doc who is an asthma specialist has used it with good results in phase 2 testing for asthma. I brought it to his attention going 2 years ago when Dr V @ MD Anderson in Houston was involved in it's testing & had emailed DR V about the test group. But distance was too much of an issue. I tried unsuccesfully to get in my doc's testing group, but was refused because my asthma is not chronic & I would taint the results, never mind that I was a willing participant & it may have helped me. I have SM with constant skin pain & sensitivity. He now promises me that if my insurance goes along with it & he'll try his best to help, that as soon as the FDA here is the US approves it, he''ll prescribe it for me.
It's supposed to be approved by agencies around the world at about the same time. Here is the link.
http://www.ab-science.com/
Look under human medicines tab
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Reply #22 - 12/28/12 at 08:32:09
 
Thanks for this, Mike. I've had a look at the site and will search for more info as I don't see any timeline for approval in the UK.
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Reply #23 - 03/06/13 at 06:28:41
 
had my doc appt yesterday. bad news on the mastinib front. my doc who was testing it for asthma rejected it as medicine was tainted, how he found that out i don't know, so they stopped his test & AB Sciences had to remove from market. I assume they are going to rework how they are making it but this could be years. also anybody heard of a blood test that would show whether you had ckit mutation. he ordered one up for me. said bone marrow test was no longer required to find out with this new blood test
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Reply #24 - 03/07/13 at 05:16:20
 
Hi Mike

Oh well back to the drawing board. I've not heard of the test but I'm seeing my consultant tomorrow so I'll ask him. Comes at a good time as my daughter is just starting the diagnosis trail and is terrified about having a BMB after hearing how painful it was for me.
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Reply #25 - 03/07/13 at 20:01:01
 
The BMB may not be needed to test for mutations, but it is usually requested when tryptase levels are high and SM is suspected in order to look for clusters of mast cells and abnormally shaped mast cells.
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Reply #26 - 06/07/13 at 15:45:37
 
Hi cutty! I'm not sure how often you visit the site, but I thought I'd take a stab at it. I've been browsing the forum today and came across this thread. The way you describe the fight or flight adrenaline feeling is exactly how I feel when I'm acting up (from who knows what). It's miserable, dibilitating and disturbing, like I'm always on the brink of explosion.  Just wondering if you got your meds figured out and if anything has helped? As you tilted the thread, this episode just goes on and on. That's where I am right now. Blah!
Sorry everyone for my constant pity party on here lately. I truly don't mean it to come off that way.  It's just that this is the only place I feel I can talk ( and people get me)  and maybe get so advice and encouragement. For the most part I do my best to keep my qualms to myself. My family just doesn't get it, so I kinda gave up.
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