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Saw Dr. Hallett today
09/04/12 at 14:43:43
 
Hi everyone. I just need to to vent and I suppose this is the best place for that. I went down to Sacramento today, 2 hours from where I live, so not too far, but I'm a little discouraged. I had a long history of symptoms that I wanted to go over with the doctor. I called last week to make sure first time visits were given adequate time for discussion. They told me I would have 40 mins. with the doctor. So not to waste anytime trying to remember all my points, I wrote everything down. Well, it was like any other doctor appointment. I went in, waited 20 mins. for the doctor to come in and she wouldn't read what I had written and barely listened to any of my symptoms. She looked at my labs that confirm positive autoimmune urticaria, but because I didn't have hives all over my body or angioedema, she wondered what I was there for. I told her that I suspected MCAS, and that I have developed a severe sensitivity to frangrances and chemicals. She said that the medical world does not accept those symptoms as symptoms of anything, and that she had nothing to say on this matter. I'm just so sad. Another doctor who won't listen to me. I feel hopeless. On the flip side, she did do a tryptase lab and a c kit (which needs to be sent back the the Mayo clinic, so results will take about 10 days). But she said that even if I were masto or MCAS, the medications would be the same. She told me I could take 20mg Zyrtec twice a day and to see how that goes. I asked her about mast cell stabilizers and she said I needed to try high dose antihistamines first (which I kinda already am!) so I guess the appointment was good and bad. I just wish someone would aknowledge my symptoms as they are debilitating and ruining my life! Will a c kit test either confirm or rule out MCAS or mastocytosis?? I just feel like curling up in a ball, I dot know what more I can do. I wonder if Dr. Casells or Dr. Afrin would see me? I'm just worried about the cost. That would definitely not be covered by insurance. Can anyone tell me what an out of pocket visit to one of these doctors would be? Do you think they would even see me?? Undecided
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Reply #1 - 09/04/12 at 15:20:12
 
Brigitte I'm SO SORRY

My advice would be to block this opinion out of your mind and look forward (impossible to do I know). So hurtful. I used to be on the uneducated side of that coin. Thinking that people suffering from MCS were just anxious. But I have come down with anaphylaxis and now, yep, reactions to chemicals and fragrances and there is nothing more real that these reactions. It is sad that there are many closed minded physicians unwilling to acknowledge this. They are just regurgitating what they've been taught and to deal with us takes someone practicing the "art of medicine" not just what's been memorized or proven as our molds aren't set or well defined. It is so disabling; I have to say it's been the most limiting part of this illness for me. I so feel for you.

Like I think was mentioned before, if you can see an MCAS doc that is the way to go. They will not write you off. I would try to see an expert if you can. In the meantime if you can find an open minded GP to help stabilize you by correspondance that would be great. That being said I understand why you gave it a shot with someone local.

I have found that adjusting my meds has not seemed to touch my chemical issues. Avoidance makes me feel better and lots of fresh air. I am experimenting with masks and going to start nebulized Cromolyn to see if it helps.

what you are feeling is real. you are suffering and you deserve to be cared for. I hope you can get in to see one of them.

I don't know the cost of going there specifically, but there are e-consults which your GP could fill out for you that they accept at BWH and they were roughly $250 last I checked.  If I were you I would call their offices and ask.

Keep fighting. Stay strong! You'll get through this. Try day to day to avoid triggers, sleep well, sort out what makes you feel better, get fresh air and exercise (if you can) to keep the extra triggering from all of this stress down
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Reply #2 - 09/04/12 at 16:37:06
 
Thank you. It means a lot to me. I will keep pushing forward. There has to be some sort of light at the end if this dark road, right?? I was not aware that you could get long distance correspondence! How would I go about doing that?? Would somebody suggest treatment for MCS without a formal diagnosis, or is autoimmune urticaria considered a MCS? I have no idea! All I know is that I can relate to many of you, and that my sensitivities are constantly triggering me making me feel very sick! I can't stand it anymore. I need someone to listen  Cry. Maybe the tryptase test and c kit test will show something. If not, then what??? I'm sorry, I'm having a pity party for myself here. I know we are all suffering and looking for answers. I guess I'll try taking the 2 Zyrtec twice tomorrow and see how I do. Has anybody had the relief of these symptoms ever going away???
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Reply #3 - 09/05/12 at 06:09:42
 
Brig,
I wanted to tell you what that doctor said made me laugh out loud!  According to her I don't have any issues at all!  Wow I'm healed!.... NOT!
I had a horrible weekend and it because of something I came in contact with.  I think it was mold, but it was something at a store that triggered my thoat to swell, I couldn't get out of the store fast enough, then it went down hill from there.  Something at my daughters apt. triggered me again. By lunch time I was popping benedryl. Spent 2 days in bed.  According to her they don't reconize it as a symptom.  She should have spent the weekend with me, that would have changed her mind. I just wonder what she thinks causes physical symptoms of someone if it isn't fragrances, chemicals, and molds! I feel your frustration!  Angry

What a waste of time, at least she did some testing for you.  The triptase is usually elevated when mast cells are involved, but not always.  Hang in there.  This really is not a fast process for anyone.  Took me almost a year with the same specialist to get me on the right meds. He tested for everything with masto in the back of his mind. He finally put me on mast cell stablizers but it was a long long road.  They have to rule out so many other things, it does take time.
 I got tired of waiting for him to figure it out so I did some research and found this supposedly great allergist, made an appointment and went and saw him.  He looked at all my test results and  told me that he didn't want to see me...He rejected me!  I cried all the way home, good thing my husband was driving, it was a long drive! I didn't know doctors could do that...NO DON'T WANT TO BE YOUR DOCTOR! Wow I was probably feeling somewhat the way you are feeling, pretty crushed.  I had put all this hope that this doctor would be the one to figure it out and he refused to see me.  I went back to the specialist and he finally figured it out.
Hang in there! Smiley
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Reply #4 - 09/05/12 at 07:09:18
 
Haha! Nope, don't want you as a patient!!!! Lol that's the feeling I keep getting! It was funny, when she told me that "they" don't recognize triggers as symptoms, I told her that they better start! I was pissed! Grrrrr......I have decided I need to go to a specialist. If I were to call, let's say, Dr. Afrin, would there be any way to have a phone consult with him? I'm just wondering how to get the ball rolling! I'm going to try her idea of super dose antihistamines today (or maybe tomorrow, I've come down with a nasty cold) and see how that goes. I'm hoping something will come about with the tryptase or the c kit. Kind of ironic to want a disease to come up isn't it! But in this awful world of medical care, it's the only way to get anyone to pay attention to you! Apparently being diagnosed autoimmune urticaria just isn't enough, lol! Pam, have you seen any of the top specialists that people talk about on this site? Do you have to have positive MCAS or masto to get an appointment. Do you know whether or not they consider AU a mast cell disease?? Thanks for your response! I'd love to take that doctor down the laundry detergent aisle at te grocery store with me, then see what she says! I had one doctor tell me that the laundry detergent smell probably brought up a bad childhood memory which made me have a panic attack! I couldn't believe it!!!!! Unbelievable!!!!
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Reply #5 - 09/05/12 at 10:06:14
 
Poor Brigitte.

I don't know exactly what the offices are offering at the moment, but you could get on the phone and ask they will be very nice to you and explain things and you won't have to pay to call the office (except for long distance fees)

I would avoid using MCS (multiple chemical sensitivities) when talking to most western med docs if you can because it is currently not a recognized medical diagnosis. (silly I know...). I would talk about your symptoms and let them worry about the diagnosis part. Say you have been diagnosed with AU but are also having reactions to X, Y, Z and have not been able to find a doctor to help you. Just my two scents. MCAS has proposed criteria but is not widely recognized yet, hopefully that will change, but has much more recognition in the mainstream medical community than MCS. There's some hair splitting because the bottom line should just be to care about the patient and help them get better and treat them openly and honestly no matter what the name is for what they have.

The e-consult I mentioned, you would need your GP to do it on your behalf through the BWH site but it's easy-ish and they can get an allergy consult that way and often even request which physician to do. They would submit your history etc and ask for their opinion. That being said if there's any way for you to get there in person this would be far superior.

I know at one point in south carolina it was an option to pay to be seen and the prices weren't astronomical, but these things keep changing, so give them a ring and let us know what you find out.
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Reply #6 - 09/05/12 at 10:21:01
 
OMG the laundry detergent Isle is the worst and it doesn't have anything to do with childhood!! I have not been to one of the specialist.  I live in Indiana, and luckily I have found a great allergist/immunologist.  He is an older guy reminds me of Papa smurf! He has had other Masto patients so I think experience was helping me. He knows some of the specialist and goes to meetings a talks with them periodically.  Like I said it took a year for him to start me on mast cell stablizers.  My tryptase is slightly elevated. I was having anaphilaxis every day.  I was really to the point I didn't care what it's called I will try the meds.  I responded positively.  He thinks I have masto.  However I have not had a bone marrow biopsy.  There are a lot of false negitives. He was concerned that if it came back negitive that my insurance would not pay for the cromolyn.  It is very expensive $1200 a month.  I now purchase it through a compounding pharmacy at $115.00 a month because of an insurance change.  I don't know officially what it is, however I think he is right.  I don't care what it is called I'm just happy the meds have been working for me.  I take precautions like a masto patient.  The treatment is the same as MCAS.
So I don't know the answers to your questions I think you can call and ask those questions to the receptionist.  
I am glad you told her that they should consider those symptoms!  I thought of a few things to say to the doc after I left when he rejected me..guess brain fog kept me from getting into trouble!  In hindsight it really is good he didn't take me as a patient, because the other guy knew what he was doing, he was just being extremely thorough.
If I had not found my doc I would have went to a specialist, because I was so sick. It is so rare and docs just don't know about it.  What kind of doc was she????
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Reply #7 - 09/05/12 at 11:50:18
 
Hmmmmm....you've got me wheels turning! I think that my GP would correspond with BWH. I wonder if  that could be an option for me. Another thought might be to find another immunologist in town who might be open minded to my symptoms. But I don't live in a very progressive town, pretty old school here in Reno! Lol but I will look into it! And I am definitely going to call BWH tomorrow and maybe Dr. Afrin too! I wonder if these docs consider AU a mast cell disorder?? I don't know what else it would be called! Thanks for chatting with me ladies! Oh, and the doctor I saw at UC Davis yesterday was an allergist/immunologist. Are hemotologists more suited for these disorders???
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