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SMCD-eos - diagnosis
04/27/12 at 03:44:24
 
Hi all,  

After a month or so of tests and speculation, my Dr (immunologist) today confirmed that I have Systemic Mast Cell Disease with eosinophila (SMCD-eos).

The CT scan shows no internal systemic involvement, however the my bones are showing up slightly whiter on the CT scan than expected, which the radiographer has put down as bone sclerosis, but the Dr thinks is actually due t mast cell burden in the bone marrow.

The interesting bit is that the test for KIT kit d816v was negative - but the FIP1L1-FDGFRA was postive (and with secondary confirmation of test). Thus his designation is now FIP1L1-FDGFRA + SMCD-eos, although he has said that it was previously classified as SM-CEL and there is still some confusion over the exact designation according to WHO criteria.

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I have been refered to the haemotologist next week; the recomendations going forward from immunology are treatment with imatinib; I expect the haemotogist will also want a BMB to determine mast cell burden.  

Thought I'd just let you know.....

Tak care all,

Brian
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Reply #1 - 04/28/12 at 12:35:03
 
Hi Brian - I am from the UK too. I have POTS and EDS and 'probable' MCAD so not mastocytosis. Where are you in the UK (you can PM me if you don't want to say). Sounds like you are getting looked after. It's quite hard to know initially whether you should be visiting a heamotologist, an immunologist or a dermatologist which is something I struggled with - and then I got diagnosed by a neurologist!
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Reply #2 - 04/28/12 at 18:06:06
 
Me too, I was clinically diagnosed by my neurologist, which was confirmed by a dermatologist.  I will be seeing Dr Afrin (hematologist) Mid May and have a immunologist lined up locally to help sort out triggers verses allergies and manage my reactions locally.  

Brian, I am impressed at the speed of your diagnosis and pathyway to getting to the right specialists.  Best wishes.  

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Reply #3 - 04/28/12 at 20:22:23
 
Thanks for sharing!

You've had all that diagnosis from blood testing? Wow. Any skin lesions that were biopsied?

What was your serum tryptase? Sorry I can't remember if you already said.

I hope they find a treatment that helps you!

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Reply #4 - 04/28/12 at 20:26:41
 
Ignore my questions, I went back and read your intro. So sorry you've gone through so much! I hope the diagnosis helps move things along. Keep us posted
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Reply #5 - 04/28/12 at 23:38:03
 
Hi All,

Thanks for you replys and your warm wishes.

I actually think that serendipity has much to answer for in the speed of the diagnosis.  After 3/12 years since the first symptoms became evident, and some 11 months of tests etc by the dematology team looking for the cause of a range of skin problems (urticaria, puritis, severe vasulitus, dermagraphisum etc)  I was eventually refered to immunology in Mar 12 (Frimley Park Hospital - Dr Kahn), who 'in his words' unusually decided to test for mast cell tryptase level while he continued to establish if the cervical disc implant I had removed (due to wear derbis and failure to work correctly), was the cause of my auto-immune reaction (skin, rhinitis etc).  When the  the first results came back high (145), he had them tested again (twice 137 then 145).  

In all I have had 7 skin biopsies over the past 3 years - the diagnosis of all of them have been different and essentually inconclusive.  One did say (Nov 2009) differential dignosis was leukeamic infiltrates, but at that point FBC was normal.

After this he decided to rule out genetic abnormalities by testing for KIT kit d816v and FIP1L1-FDGFRA - lucky he did!!

His 'initial' diagnosis was cutaneous Mastocytosis - which changed over the the last week or so, as the results of the CT scan and the genetic testing came in.

I'm not sure how many FIP1L1-FDGFRA+ patients there are? Are there any others on this forum?  Dr Kahn says he doesn't no of any others in his current patient group, and doesn know anyone who has tested FIP1L1-FDGFRA+.


I must add that I also get many of the other symptoms common with mastocytosis - not just the skin problems ie, bone pain, aches and pains, fatigue, very dry eyes (like grit in your eye), short term memory loss, GI problems and cramps. CT scan has also showed is thickening of the wall of the descending colon, but no imparing function.
 
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Reply #6 - 05/11/12 at 00:19:05
 
Hi all,

Just to update you all further.  I suspect that this will be my last post, as the haemotogist has confirmed that I have FIP1L1-PDGFA postive HES - not SMCD-eos. Only the degree of clonality seperates HES from Chronic Eosinophilic Leukemia (CEL) and I'm waiting on the results of the bone marrow biopsy i had 2 days ago. I started on imatanib at the same time. For me the prognosis is good as they know exactly what to treat; without treatment HES/CEL is progressivly fatal.

My mast cell tryptase level remains high at 137 - so it should not just be used as a clinical marker without testing for KIT d816V and FIP1L1-PDGFA as many of the other symptoms are similar. I was tested for both.

It is high as a result of cross signalling between eosinophils and mast cells during allergic response (IL5 has something to do with it I understand) or in my case as a result of the tyrosine kinase that is produced as a result of the gene fusion, turning on uncontrolled eosinophil propogation.  As my eosinophil level drops with the imatanib, then my mast cell tryptase level should also drop, and my other symptoms should subside in time, and then hopefully I'll get into remission - although treament is life long to keep it at bay.

Best wishes to all,    

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Reply #7 - 05/11/12 at 05:34:18
 
Wow, Brian, you've been through a lot the past few days, but it sounds very hopeful.  So glad to hear!!!  I wish you a quick remission.  
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Reply #8 - 05/11/12 at 09:48:14
 
Best wishes, Brian.
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Reply #9 - 08/21/12 at 23:53:30
 
Just thought I'd give you another update.  Nearly 4 months since diagnosis now.  Its been redefined as FIP1L1-PDGFRa + Chronic Eosinophilic Leukeamia - not HES under the 2012 WHO classification.  actually the consulatant said that it can also be described as SM with an associated clonal hematologic non-mast cell lineage disease (AHNMD) - really depends if you look at it from a mast cell or eosinophil perspective.  

My FBC is almost back to normal on Imatinib.  My typtase level has gone from 145 to 45 and was last at 22 last week, so heading in the right direction. But of course I'm still suffering a little due to the high tryptase level, but moving in the right direction.!!! Smiley Smiley
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Reply #10 - 08/22/12 at 00:28:51
 
This sounds like great news! So glad to see that everything is headed in the right direction. Congrats!!!  Smiley
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