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Reply #15 - 04/21/12 at 14:49:14
 
Hi Peter,

Glad the meds are working for you!  I don't know what the time limit is on Zometa, but you might be able to find out from the manufacturer's website or a bone metabolism specialist might be able to tell you.  Some of those drugs can cause bone death in the jaw and other parts of the body if used to long, but I don't know if Zometa is one of them.

When you mentioned "on or off" degranulating, are you referring to mast cells "leaking?"  That's what I believe.  Even with meds, they can still leak mediators, just in smaller quantities than in "shockers."

If that's not what you meant, please explain.

Your doctor doesn't mind being named on the forum along with his office contact information.  He does NOT want his email posted.  If you prefer, you could PM people who ask for it.  He also wrote that he does not consider himself a mast cell disorder expert, but we know he's been good in treating you.
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Reply #16 - 04/21/12 at 22:12:36
 
Hi joan zometa is one of the drugs that cause bone death
what the time limit is i dont know either i think i might go for 6 mounth
iv for a wile
now back on the cromoglycate and the IBD has gone agan
the on - off was a quote from the link i posted
and yes it is leaking mast cells all the time but the immune system
t-b-nk cells all-so how are you doing well i hope
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Reply #18 - 05/04/12 at 16:20:56
 
Today was stressful, but otherwise, I've been okay.  I found that turmeric capsules, twice a day has really helped with inflammation.  I'm going to try quercetin again, but had to take a break because of my stomach issues.

Dr. Theoharides will be in Denver tomorrow at the Colorado Support Group meeting, and he's speaking about the effectiveness of luteolin vs. gastrocrom for stabilizing mast cells.  I'll post whatever he says that might be helpful for anyone.

Thanks for the info.

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Reply #19 - 05/05/12 at 05:00:44
 
Joan wrote on 05/04/12 at 16:20:56:
Today was stressful, but otherwise, I've been okay.  I found that turmeric capsules, twice a day has really helped with inflammation.  I'm going to try quercetin again, but had to take a break because of my stomach issues.

Dr. Theoharides will be in Denver tomorrow at the Colorado Support Group meeting, and he's speaking about the effectiveness of luteolin vs. gastrocrom for stabilizing mast cells.  I'll post whatever he says that might be helpful for anyone.

Thanks for the info.



Hello Joan

I would be interested to hear about that. I stopped gastrocrom as the benefits were minimal and too much faffing around with the capsules. I found a link for luteolin and see a german Company sells it in Europe. Anything licensed by Germany is considered 'good to go' elsewhere in Europe as their licensing laws are so tight.  It's quite expensive so I might see if there is a version licensed in the UK and get it from my GP as we pay no prescription charges in Scotland.
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Reply #20 - 05/05/12 at 08:11:03
 
"faffing around" ha ha! Well put! There is a lot of that in my life these days Wink
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Reply #21 - 05/05/12 at 20:13:47
 
 

   




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Vol. 159, No. 1, 2012    

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Review

Evaluation of Mast Cell Activation Syndromes: Impact of Pathology and Immunohistology
H.-P. Hornya, K. Sotlara, P. Valentb

aInstitute of Pathology, Ludwig-Maximilians-University, Munich, Germany;
bDivision of Hematology and Hemostaseology, Department of Internal Medicine I, Medical University of Vienna, Vienna, Austria


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Int Arch Allergy Immunol 2012;159:1-5 (DOI: 10.1159/000336374)


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 Abstract

Mast cell activation syndromes (MCAS) are clinically defined disease states with a largely unknown morphological background. Since mastocytosis may be associated with MCAS, it is crucial in every patient to document or exclude mastocytosis by appropriate histological, molecular, and serological investigations of tissues/organs that are commonly involved in mastocytosis like skin, mucosa of the gastrointestinal tract and bone marrow. Accordingly, histopathological investigation including immunohistological stains is crucial to reach the final diagnosis in such patients and to classify MCAS into primary MCAS, which can present with or without evidence of overt mastocytosis, or secondary MCAS, where an underlying disease with or without tissue inflammation is detected. Cases without evidence of mastocytosis, monoclonal mast cells, or any underlying disease should be termed idiopathic MCAS. When the activating point mutant KIT D816V is detectable but criteria for diagnosis of mastocytosis are not completely met, a so-called (mono)clonal MCAS as a subvariant of primary MCAS should be diagnosed.



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Reply #22 - 05/10/12 at 07:38:56
 
Peter I am new to this forum but definately not new to SM.  I was told mine is now more aggressive.  In 2005 I had to stop the Gleevec because it damaged my liver and then they found out I had the mutation in the CKIT 816.  Would have been nice if MD Anderson checked for that first.  But anyway.  I have had several bone marrow biopsies and meet the WHO criteria so its not like I am looking for a diagnosis.  Not everyone's symptoms are the same and not everyone is affected by the same things. My mast cells are positive for cd2 and cd25 which was explained to me by my oncologist means they are malignant.  Anyway, I suffer from severe bone pain, muscle spasms in arms and legs, nausea, diarrhea, extreme stomach bloating, and the most severe migraines, also extreme fatigue, brain fog, confusion.  I am one of the rare mastos that can't take ketitofen or cromylin, I have every adverse reaction to it.  So I am on Allegra 180 2x a day (H1), Zantac 300mgs 2x a day (h2), cymbalta (helps with the bone and muscle pain), b12 injections weekly (pernicious anemia from the masto) LDN 4.5 mgs a day, benedryl and epi pens as needed since I have lots of anaphylaxis for no reason. I also flush all the time and it feels like my insides are on fire and occassionaly feels like my blood gong thru my veins is molton lava.  I have no allergies at all.  So when I hear people refer to masto as an allergic disease it makes me soo made they have no clue what it is.
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Reply #23 - 05/10/12 at 21:10:36
 
HI wendy I started this blog for people with SM hoping to find
people like you your post will help a lot Joan is a lot better communicator then I the fire in the gut i now well
i take all my pills with milk seems to help a bit
I copied your post to the new doc as a ?? hope you dont mind
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Reply #24 - 05/11/12 at 11:36:47
 
TO Wendy-joan and all with clonal systemic mastocytosis
i have pm deb and arsked her to start a new blog for all with who critirea
systemic mastocytosis sum where to post with out confusion
with allergies plese repost your storyes and help deb set it up
this is not to be seen as confertaion gust to stop confusion
when i first came here i was so messtup and the strees made it worse
a LOT worse and it is still happening to others please fix it let the people with disease tell there storys without CONFUSION
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Reply #25 - 05/11/12 at 14:51:41
 
Current state of biology and diagnosis of clonal mast cell diseases in adult                                                    -----------------------------
shttp://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1751-553X.2012.01427.x/full
BY HEMATOLOGY free
use this one deb
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