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Re: Question about MCD and Fibromyalgia
Reply #15 - 03/01/11 at 10:55:34
 
Hi Mellisa ,

Thinning hair can be caused by 2 conditions , if it is thining at the hairline . The first is cushings syndrome - this is a steriod overproduction syndrome. if you have depression as well then this may be possible . A serum cortisol at 9 am will show your natural steriod level and other tests can be ordered on the basis of that . If you are on steriods it may be a side effect . you grow hair were you don't want it and not were you do Smiley

This can originate from the adrenal glands or the pituatry gland . Given the throid history a check of you piuatry hormones would be useful Smiley as the pituatry controls both so problems can be connected .

Goitres can have high or low thyroid , so they took half away , for comfort and or better balance of chemicals and now you have to take replacement thyriod hormone as what is left behind isnt producing enough . You should watch yourself for low thyroid symptoms and high . As what is left can either stop working completley in which case you will need more thyroxine . Or it may get over excited again .

hashimotos thyroidosis ( low thyroid / hypothyroid ) is a cause ( the antibodies I mentioned ) and is the autoimmune cause . It is also caused by iodine depeletion . There ia also a genetic low thyroid condition which is assocaited with goitre but you would expect symptoms before your early 20's .

First presentaions with thyroid problems are often high throid levels as they peak as they are struggling before they give up altogether . This is common after childbirth .

In broad terms high thyroid is over active everything and low is underactive everything .

High :-
anxiety , weightloss despite increased appietite , fast heart beat , poppy eyes

Low :- depression weight gain , slow heart beat , low blood pressure

Thyrods and adrenals - ( steriods , sex hormones , blood pressure control ) are closely linked so a check on both is ideal and an endocrinologist to interpret results as there are lots of feedback loops which they get !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! beware of a doc who says , im not an endocrinologist but I want to give you this or that hormone xxxx

The other cause of hair thinning is poly cystic overian syndrome . This is because it messes with your cortisol production by another means . It is treatable Smiley

Both thyriod and adrenal conditions cause fatigue and pain . so you may already have an explination for those . xxxxxxxxx

I hope today brings some answers Smiley I am plodding on today being a blip to be sorted xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Josie
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Reply #16 - 03/01/11 at 15:21:17
 
You know by the way, I always wondered if there was an adrenal thing going on. At 19 I had a bunch of blood work because I have had increasing facial hair and awful sweating fits, adult acne(never had pimples as a teenager)I thought I was going through menopause. The blood work came back as elevated DHEA and elevated testosterone. They said DHEA is produced by the adrenals and they did an ultrasound to check for a tumor on the adrenal gland and also to check the ovaries for cysts. No tumor no cysts, had regular periods so they didn't think it was PCOS. Never got and answer they just prescribed spironolactone to lessen the male androgens and birthcontrol. About 5 years later had this all investigated again this time by an endo doc and they did all kinds of tests including one where they give me a shot of prolactin and I came back in an hour and have my blood checked, anyways the test was done wrong by the lab and the doctor said rather than make me do the test again she really believed it was PCOS and that insulin resistance comes with that. I have heard PCOS causes thinning of hair but I was told if I lose weight it will get better. I dropped 50lbs and it never did get better. Now I still have to lose weight again because I'm still packing the weight I gained from the last baby. Who knows maybe it will just take time for the hormones to adjust, I should be more patient. Sometimes, I just wish I could be normal and not have all these issues. The only good thing out of this is I have become very good at waxing, I wax a lot of my friends. Lol!
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Reply #17 - 03/02/11 at 03:58:27
 
Hi Mellisa ,
   
They seem to ahve tested your adrenals and overies . i think you need the pituatry tests . You would also be good ahving the 24 hour urine collection for a pheaocryocythoma . it is what they scanned for . it can cause trouble that mimics anaphylaxis / masto.  The collection test is most useful other than CT . But CT contrast is best avoided by any mast cell patient xx as it degraualtes mast cells .

The pheao is a ( in the very large majority ) benign tumor which can be removed Smiley

You need the test repeated that they didn't complete as this is the test for pituatry function .

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Re: Question about MCD and Fibromyalgia
Reply #18 - 03/04/11 at 13:33:59
 
Hi Melissa,

I definitely don't have masto, but I am pretty sure I have MCAD, though my doctor refuses to treat me for that (please see my post from a few minutes ago in the general MCD folder).   He also refuses to do a skin biopsy for spindle-shaped mast cells.  Yeah, a real winner!  Time to find a new doc.  This one absolutely won't think outside the box.  

I'll definitely look forward to hearing reports from the conference in April!  

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Reply #19 - 03/04/11 at 16:01:59
 
I'm sorry Larken. I totally understand and have been there. I had generally had better luck with a female doctors. Out of all the different specialists I saw.....3 of them stood out....all female, and 2 of them were in their mid to late thirties. I think because they haven't been doctors for to long they aren't as arrogant and are more willing to think outside the box and are a little more excited about trying to figure out harder to solve cases. Just my opinion, I'm sure offers might disagree. Larken, I even did a case study at the local university and saw supposedly the best dermatologists in my area. 30 plus doctors came in and the young female interns showed the most interest. The older male doctors just looked at my spots real quick and seemed to not think much of them. I know their are great doctors with 30+ years experience but sometimes it's hard to find one. You know many doctors will do interviews, you could call ahead and ask if they will do like a 10 minute consult and explain your case and it's rareness and tell them your really looking for someone who is going to think outside the box and at least look at your symptoms as a whole and consider that just MAYBE they could be related, you have been through so much and you really need a doctor to take your symptoms seriously, and it's it important for you to get the correct diagnose so you can be properly monitored and properly medicated. Tell the next doc that and see what they say, I bet you might get a more help. Seriously try a female doc next. Send me questions I should ask at the conference, I'm not sure how it works but if we can ask questions I have some in mind.
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Reply #20 - 03/05/11 at 06:43:11
 
Hi Larken, just wanted to quickly comment I was diagnosed fibro in the late 80's. I also have hypothyroid, and adrenal issues, and female issues. I finally tolearate a thyroid medication, i had given up for years, am on natural progesterone, and I have to say the greatest thing that helped my fibro was food elimination. Holy cow what a difference. If I "retest" dairy or say wheat, that night/day I am back to high pain. Nutrasweet was a another huge one for severe bone pain, now it'd trigger me to anaphalaxsis probably.
I take a mag/potassium supplement for my adrenals, gave up on exploring, my lifestyle was insane for my adrenals, grandparents sick, young children, homeschooling and running a business, of course my adrenals were taxed! For some reason I really dump potassium so I have to keep it in line with sodium intake. I did give up on adrenal supplementations  I just rejected too many of them. I've learned to say no and hope my adrenals are recovering!
Anyway just wanted to pipe in on the food/ and pain issues, it really was unbelievable the difference, it took quite a few months for it to lessen, but now that I am off if I have something bam it's that day the bone/skin pain is back. I'd probably still be positive for fibro, I'm sure my trigger points are still pretty positive, if someone comes up to say hello and grabs your arm excitedly and "applies pressure" that still will hurt for 20 minutes after. But I do not lay in bed all night throbbing, and for that I am so grateful!
On the off hand subject! A good pair of orthotics and shoes also changed my life with bone/hip pain. I really hate ugly shoes, but I started getting these cysts in my hands and feet, mortons neuroma, spurs and my hips were in constant agony. I was going to get straightened constantly. Well the cysts and metatarsaligia, and spurs and hip pain wouldn't stop I took the plunge and WOW, so finally finding a orthotic I didn't react to Smiley and a shoe and I try now to make newbalance look amazing Smiley   On your MCAD issue may I suggest while you are seeking the correct doc, try treating with antihistamines yourself to see if there is a difference. You may already be doing that, I've got to look on your other posts! That is what I am doing, luckily my current MD is on board with me, he's known me for a long time and my issues and said this fits, we've weight all other options, and the fact I respond well  to antihistimines is a clue we are onto something.
On your angioedema, I've told docs I am a human pufferfish, it is ridiculous  I can literally be wearing a pair of pants that are baggy and after not feeling well can put them on and not get them buttoned. It's insane
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Reply #21 - 03/05/11 at 09:43:47
 
Hi Sandi ,

I understand the human pufferfish. my abdomen is always a little bloated ( 36 ins ) but when i swell I measure 56 ins around my waist . my hips are a uk 16 (20 ??? with you ) . So I have given up on normal cuts and am now wearing maternity ranges . I don't care . i am comfortable Smiley

Swelling bring bowel spams and these cause loose stools and diarrhoea and sometimes vomiting if they spasm back to my stomach . Sometimes its just my stomach spasming . This happened this morning . i ate , then I knew . too late for anti sickness .vomit ,  then half hr later i can tolerate meds and water .

I am on strong painkillers because of my bowel swelling and I dont need any apierients - senna , lactulose , sodium docucstae etc xxx

My GP keeps asking do I need them . No thanks Smiley

For my adrenals I am tolerating hydrocortisone syryp 10mg a day . My adrenals have completley failed at the moment , so this is a maintance dose , the same as you body makes every day Smiley

I am also diagnosed with fibromaylgia . It was an early diagnosis in all this so im open minded about it Smiley
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Re: Question about MCD and Fibromyalgia
Reply #22 - 03/05/11 at 16:07:59
 
How do you guys know your adrenals are fatigued. Is there certain signs? Or did you get certain tests preformed?
Oh also, I came across an article the other day about a link between low progesterone and fibromyalgia, and how when the patients where given progesterone and their symptoms of fibro disappeared. You guys heard of that before? I know I have low progesterone, I have in the past.
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Reply #23 - 03/06/11 at 02:12:26
 
Hi mel ,

My adrenals are not fatigued , theyve packed up and gone . It may be secondery to long term steriods , but it normally needs to be yrs . My tests for autoimmune addisions ( low adrenal function ) have been negative , but my adrenals remain shut down anyway .

I am seeing an endocrinologist for this and my diabetes soon so ill know more then .

Adrenal fatigue is hard to prove , long term stress an lead to chronic stress and symptoms similiar to low adrenal function - depression ( crying when not feeling sad , fatigue , muscule pain , pyrexias , regular infections . But true adrenal shut down is shown on a 9am cortisol level with very little being produced and backed up with an adrenal stimulation test .

In our case I think the pituatry tests would be useful with you whole picture . An endocrinologist is the specialty of choice in this situation Smiley

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