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Reply #15 - 01/23/11 at 13:47:35
 
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Thanks Heather and Lisa!
    I typed my latest posts at 1:45 in the morning.  I would like to blame my "brain fog" onto that but the reality is I need to continually "think outside the box".... it is as simple as blocking the histamines and until this last week I never knew that.  Soooo.... my mind is still triggered to think "allergies".  Also thanks for the helpful link .  
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Reply #16 - 01/23/11 at 13:48:19
 
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No worries!!  It seriously took me MONTHS to figure out triggers like heat, cheese, and leftover meat.  These disorders are so weird... you have to train yourself to think differently about symptoms and how to treat them.

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Reply #17 - 01/23/11 at 13:49:02
 
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Thanks to all of you for your suggestions with Brie's meds.  She started the Zantac today and I now have liqued Benadryl on hand if needed. We had a productive day as  I checked with my Insurance Company today and Dr. Castell's and Dr. Akin are covered by my plan - YIPPEE!  Now if I can get them to respond to my email and get her an appointment I will start trying to figure out the financial end of getting her there.  I spoke to her Pediatric GI Dr today and he won't consider making any med changes until he re-evaluates her (first available time to get her into him is January).  I made a call to my son's Allergist / Immunologist to see if he knows anything about MCAD or if he has treated it, or wants to learn about it, or if her can make some recommendations of who may be familiar with it... haven't heard back from him yet but it is one more possible resource locally anyway.  Also starting to formulate my next email to her Pediatric Diagnostician at Mayo... hopefully get that out tonight or tomorrow.  Just want to send you all GREAT BIG HUGS for all of your wise suggestions, encouragement and support!!!!!  We Love you all.
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Reply #18 - 01/23/11 at 13:49:49
 
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Heather,

Is the histamine in leftover meat, spoiled food, aged and fermented foods, etc. H1 histamine or H2? or other?  Does H3 or H4 cause a problem in mast cell disorders?  I looked for that info and haven't been able to find it.

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Reply #19 - 01/23/11 at 13:50:30
 
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Great news Kim!   Atta Girl!  Keep knocking at those doors to see which ones are OPEN!!!    One of them most definitely WILL BE!    

As to your local doctors, remember, they are not comfortable with working with diseases that they don't know and as my dermatologist says,   Lisa, most doctors don't like masto!  They dont' know it and they don't like what they don't know!  So they aren't helpful!     So, Kim, don't toss a good doctor out just because he's not comfortable with the changing of the meds.  Once you can get Brie into the hands of EXPERTS the others will have to follow in their footsteps!!!

My doctors have openly admitted defeat with me!  The hematologist I saw on Tuesday has openly admitted to me as being totally LOST and not knowing what to do, but I've kept sending her information and she keeps reading it and with the recent MCAD diagnostic proposal paper, it explained enough what the forms were so that it gave her the confidence to say that she agrees with Dr. Castells and Dr. Escribano in that I must redo another bone marrow biopsy.  She knows we still need answers so she's willing to do it - gladly!  

So, if you've got doctors who recognize how sick Brie is and yet are being cautious, they are being so due to the fact that when there is someone who must sign on the dotted line, it's their name that is in play and so they are required to be cautious!   You know the responsibility, Kim, so be patient!   Don't worry too much about those meds.  If you feel any of them needs to be pulled back then do it on the anti-inflammatory for that's probably the only one which may be any real issue, but adding the Zantac and doubling the Allegra should bring about some really positive improvements!

Let us know how it goes!

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Reply #20 - 01/23/11 at 13:52:16
 
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Is the histamine in leftover meat, spoiled food, aged and fermented foods, etc. H1 histamine or H2? or other?  Does H3 or H4 cause a problem in mast cell disorders?  I looked for that info and haven't been able to find it.


-jysmith

Wikipedia has a nice little chart about this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histamine

And you know... now that I think about it, I'm not sure if it's the histamine that comes in different types...or if it's just the receptors and what they do with the histamine.  Hmmm.

I feel a bit of research coming on... I'll let you know if I find some answers.

Heather

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Reply #21 - 01/23/11 at 13:53:05
 
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Kim, Jumping for joy that you ( she)  can see Dr Akin or Castells!!!! Smiley   Smiley Smiley  
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Reply #22 - 01/23/11 at 13:55:26
 
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Sandi;

I was so excited about our insurance covering those Docs too!  Now I just hope to hear back from Dr. Akins on the email I sent him explaining Brie's situation and our need for his help.  I asked her Dr. for a referral but they for whatever reason were not receptive to that idea.  So I wrote to Dr. Akin without a referral and I'm just not sure that is enough to get us through the door.

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Reply #23 - 01/23/11 at 13:58:07
 
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Hi Kim,

I think Dr. Akin and Dr. Castells prefer that you have a local doctor to work with on a regular basis, but I don't think a referral is necessary unless your insurance requires it... mine doesn't.

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Reply #24 - 01/23/11 at 13:59:00
 
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Kim and everybody!!!

I have another option for you all!   Dr. Lawrence Schwartz of Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, VA.

I wrote to Dr. Schwartz asking him about giving his name as another reference as for patients.  He has given me a lovely reply saying that he will be more than happy to see patients who have Mastocytosis or MCAD or who are SUSPECTED of having this.  He is NOT requiring a full workup for masto for patients before he sees them and he did NOT require that there even be PROOF of mast cell activation.   He only asked that patients come having had some kind of prior investigation and that they bring with them all of that workup.   He has given to me his phone number and I have his contact information as well.    He very well understands the struggle we patients go through in order to find answers and he's more than willing to work with any patient who has a suspicion of a mast cell disorder.  


The reason why I did this is because I understand and recognize the work that Dr. Castells and Akin are doing in trying to establish a center for mast cell disorders.  I understand their need to restrict patients to a specific criteria.  They are SWAMPED and they lost some of their doctor support when they chose to restrict their center to that of only mast cell disorders.   It's the first of its kind in the US and until they can gather more colleagues, these two doctors are being overwhelmed!   They had to make some decisions.  It has become THE reference center not only in the US but Canada as well and they had to make some restrictions as to how they could handle patient influx.  Yet, unfortunately this has made it difficult for patients needing help and they need to know that there are other experts out there and Dr. Schwartz is who trained Dr. Castells and has worked with her when he used to be up at Harvard.  He's got major research going on there in Virginia, only you don't hear quite as much from him because he's not connected to the TMS site.   However, he's just as available and just as excellent of a doctor as the other two and Metcalfe.  They are all the tops in the country!

So, if any of you are feeling qualms about getting into Boston, you don't need to feel that anymore, Dr. Schwartz will take you as is!

Let me know if you want his phone number!

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Reply #25 - 01/23/11 at 14:00:52
 
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Lisa;
Thank you so much for always going above and beyond to help everyone find the right Dr.'s, treatment, answers, etc.  You are truly an ANGEL.  I would love to have any information that you have on this Dr. if you think he sees Pediatric cases too.  You can PM me the info if you'd like.  
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Reply #26 - 01/23/11 at 14:01:51
 
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Hi Kim -
I'm pretty sick/brainfogged these days so I didn't absorb everything in this thread but I'm so sorry to hear about what your daughter is going through.  Reading your description reminded me of some of the things I have been dealing with - so far I have been diagnosed with an HDCT ( Hereditary Disorder of Connective Tissue) in the same family as Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome) and two Urticarias.  Her dizziness/tachycardia may be caused by POTS.  I'm new to this forum so I don't even know what's going on, but wanted to post here in case I can help in any way (and before I forgot).
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Reply #27 - 01/23/11 at 14:02:36
 
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Sarah;
         Thank you so much for your post.  I appreciate you taking the time when it sounds like you are going through a very difficult time yourself.  I am so sorry that you are not doing well!
Are you taking the H1 and H2 blockers like most on this forum?  They have sure helped my daughter... but nothing has eliminated her symptoms.  I will definetaly look into the diagnosis that you mentioned... as we are still trying to find a unifying diagnosis for all of her symptoms. I hope you start to feel better and that we hear more from you when you do.  This is a wonderful forum and VERY EDUCATIONAL... maybe you can find some answers for yourself on here.

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Reply #28 - 01/23/11 at 14:03:27
 
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Thanks Kim, and I have started the anti-histamines.  The doxepin and Gastrocrom seem to help the most so far, but I haven't been taking them long.

The reason I mentioned my diagnoses is that I suspect that the connective tissue disorder may be the underlying problem for me - I am just starting to learn about this, but apparently HDCTs may make people more susceptible to autoimmune problems.  And while POTS is likely caused or worsened by the mast cell disorder, it is really awful in terms of how it makes you feel, and treating it with at least increased fluids, salt and other simple things to help stabilize blood pressure, might help ease some or your daughter's symptoms while you are on your search.

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Reply #29 - 01/23/11 at 14:04:26
 
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Sarah,

Have you heard of the Canadian Mastocytosis support site?   They have integrated themselves pretty well within the country and they can tell you who the doctors are who may be within your region.  You're needing some serious investigating, sweety, and they can help you work within your country's health system.  

Yet, please don't feel like you need to go leaving us, for the understanding of the disease!  We have a great group of people here and everybody, even our newest, feel comfortable and at home here.  Many of us are Americans, but we've got people here from the UK and Australia and I'm the loner from Brazil (although I am American).  Well ALL know how hard it is to find doctors however, and how important this is.  Yet we have only one Canadian who seems to drift amongst us, Manuella but she lives out in BC (gorgeous country that!).  But as one of the girls here said, many Canadian patients end up going to the doctors in Boston!  Manuella got her diagnosis through Dr. Castells and I'm sure that if she hadn't gone to her that she'd be without a diagnosis still!   One of the thing's I've noticed, and that my own masto specialist has told me, Sarah, is that each country has a tendancy to follow certain schools of thought on diseases and how they diagnose them.  Brazil seems to follow Europe's much more stringent attitudes and I suspect that the Canadian doctors do too, for a lot of Canadian patients struggle to get a diagnosis.  Yet, part of the same battle I go through as Canadian patients also go through is that there is no research center for Mastocytosis in Canada nor is there in Brazil.  A research center within a country helps to raise awareness amongst the medical community and this helps the doctors think along those lines.  Yet, Canada does have research going on in mast cells within other diseases and this is at least a help.  Brazil doesn't have any kind of research in mast cells going on and mastocytosis is a foreign word to them!   So, it's 3 times the struggle for me to get my doctors and my answers.  

But the key here for you Sarah, is to keep working with your doctors.  We have some excellent information here and we can also give you more that will help your doctors think masto. It may be that masto is the root of your problems, but without your doctors thinking masto and testing accordingly, then you'll stay without answers.  So, the thing to do is to get them thinking in the right direction.  Give us your email - PM any one of us, me or Heather or Ramona or Deb and any one of us can give you some great information for your doctors.  Print it out and ask them to read it and see what they think about this disease as a possibility.  This is what a LOT of us have to do for the majority of us don't have the priveledge of being in the hands of experts and our doctors are learning right along with us!!  

We're here to help you Sarah and we'll do what we can to help you find these answers!

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